May 1, 2026
I sat down with Victor Varnado — comedian, founder of Supreme Robot, and the man behind the Worldwide Tic-Tac-Toe Championship. Victor is also King Super Nuts. That's not a joke. Well, it is. But it's also real.
Victor built disability gaming software that could let paralyzed, blind, and deaf players enjoy video games without any extra hardware. He got a National Science Foundation grant to develop it. A tech company bought it for pre-IPO shares worth $500,000. The IPO never happened. The company got in trouble with the SEC. Victor never saw a dime. He tells the story without bitterness, which is somehow the most remarkable part.
We also talked Richard Pryor, AI, the UCB rap battle scene, and why tic-tac-toe is actually a strategy game.
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Here's what we got into:
🎤 Richard Pryor over George Carlin. Victor's case: Pryor holding thousands of people simultaneously is a technical feat that only becomes visible once you've seriously studied performance. Lou spent years in the Carlin camp. He's reconsidering.
📚 The histology class that changed how he sees the world. One class rewired him. The example that hit hardest: Carnegie's public library was originally open during hours when the public was at work. It started as a leisure club for the elite. The thing we think of as universally good was a lot more complicated at the start.
💡 Supreme Robot: build the IP first, find investors second. Victor's framework — create something, prove people want it, then go to investors with evidence instead of a pitch deck. His definition of strong IP: when he explains it, nobody says it's a bad idea, and most people who are even partially in the market for it want it immediately.
🤖 AI is like discovering electricity. What stays valuable no matter what: people's time and attention. Whatever you're building, that's what you're actually competing for.
🕹️ He built disability gaming tech — and a company buried it. Voice control layered on top of any game, no extra hardware required. A procedurally generated audio-description track for blind and deaf players. An NSF grant. A $500K acquisition that paid in pre-IPO shares. An IPO that never came.
⭕ Tic-tac-toe is a strategy game — if you put it in the right arena. The Worldwide Tic-Tac-Toe Championship launches to 100 million players via Facebook, YouTube, and Samsung TVs. Grand prize: $0. The system is incorruptible.
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 — Intro: Victor Varnado and Supreme Robot
01:35 — Growing up in Gary, Indiana and the Jackson 5
04:40 — Richard Pryor vs. George Carlin
06:15 — The histology class that changed everything
09:30 — Bombing at the HBO Aspen callback and going solo
11:30 — UCB, the Hammer Cats, 20 years of NYC comedy
13:50 — Battle Ish: 7 years of rap battle comedy at UCB
18:30 — Supreme Robot explained
21:10 — AI and what stays valuable when everything changes
24:40 — Opening for Scott Thompson from Kids in the Hall
26:40 — Opening for Gilbert Gottfried at Caroline's
29:20 — Norm MacDonald on Sam Kinison and what comedy is about
31:55 — The Worldwide Tic-Tac-Toe Championship
37:55 — The NSF grant and the disability gaming tech
40:10 — The $500K he never got
41:40 — Neuralink and the medical future he actually wants
Watch full episodes on YouTube →
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4Vb53s4I0A&list=PLb5trMQQvT077-L1roE0iZyAgT4dD4EtJ
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